Comments on: Turkmen Students Abroad Fear to Tell the Truth http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/ Just another WordPress weblog Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:44:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: turkmenistan.neweurasia.net » Turkmen Facebook – Dead Zone http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-36700 turkmenistan.neweurasia.net » Turkmen Facebook – Dead Zone Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:01:23 +0000 http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-36700 [...] LOVE_TM: MARICULA .. AND EVRYONE ELSE u know what nodoby is afraid to tell the truth i love my country and none of... [...] […] LOVE_TM: MARICULA .. AND EVRYONE ELSE u know what nodoby is afraid to tell the truth i love my country and none of… […]

]]> By: LOVE_TM http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-36613 LOVE_TM Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:30:55 +0000 http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-36613 MARICULA .. AND EVRYONE ELSE u know what nodoby is afraid to tell the truth i love my country and none of this posts effect my view ,been i'm aboad or not it's the simle truth if some ppl say it's not well if they could do better then they should bring thier A** here and do better .. MARICULA .. AND EVRYONE ELSE u know what nodoby is afraid to tell the truth i love my country and none of this posts effect my view ,been i’m aboad or not it’s the simle truth if some ppl say it’s not well if they could do better then they should bring thier A** here and do better ..

]]> By: LOVE_TM http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-36612 LOVE_TM Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:26:58 +0000 http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-36612 well Major S.Rejepov i wouldn't be more disepointed in you people when you are saying Nobady in KNB can't speak or read english..or they don't read english blocks about TM cuz' i c you do and i'm 200% sure you not the only one ,,btw i don't get why would you post your status in goverment when you work for it... well Major S.Rejepov i wouldn’t be more disepointed in you people when you are saying Nobady in KNB can’t speak or read english..or they don’t read english blocks about TM cuz’ i c you do and i’m 200% sure you not the only one ,,btw i don’t get why would you post your status in goverment when you work for it…

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]]> By: Akish http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-35713 Akish Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:39:29 +0000 http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-35713 Hi everyone, let me tell an anecdote which describes this situation best: President Bush, President Putin and President Niyazov had an official meeting and they went to big canyon for an excursion. all of three presidents were top of the biggest canyon and watching beautiful landscape. Of course their personal bodyguards also were with them. Somehow Mr. Bush and Mr. Putin started to discussion that whose bodyguard is better. Mr. Bush told that "If ask my bodyguard to jump from the biggest canyon, he won't hesitate for a minute he will jump" Mr. Putin told that "If ask my bodyguard to jump from the biggest canyon, he won't hesitate for a second he will jump" They argued for an hour and decided to test their bodyguards. President Bush called his personal bodyguard and ordered to jump from the biggest canyon. His bodyguard who is also agent of CIA firstly surprised then started begging to Mr. Bush saying that he has two children, wife and old parents whom he has to look after. Mr. Bush thinks for a while then forgives his bodyguard. President Putin laughs at Mr. Bush saying that his bodyguard is better then he called his personal bodyguard and ordered to jump from the biggest canyon. His bodyguard who is also agent of KGB firstly surprised then started begging to Mr. Putin saying that he has three children, wife and old parents whom he has to look after. Mr. Putin thinks for a while then forgives his bodyguard too. President Niyazov surprised and said "Dear my friends your bodyguards are really coward and disgusting, look at my bodyguard". Then he called his personal bodyguard and ordered to jump from the biggest canyon. His bodyguard who is also agent of KNB jumped from the biggest canyon without any hesitation. Mr. Putin, Mr. Bush and their bodyguards are shocked. After a while Mr. Niyazov's bodyguard came back in a blood with broken arms, legs and head. President Bush and Putin helped him and asked to wounded turkmen bodyguard "Why didn't you beg for your life and why didn't you refuse to jump?" Wounden Turkmen Bodyguard answered "I have also two children, wife and old parents whom I have to protect". Dear friends, you are asking why turkmen people in abroad are afraid of discuss political, economical and other situation in Turkmenistan. Our answer is : "WE HAVE ALSO SISTERS, BROTHERS, PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS and RELATIVES WHOM WE WANT TO PROTECT because WE ALL LOVE OUR FAMILY MEMBERS" Hi everyone,
let me tell an anecdote which describes this situation best:
President Bush, President Putin and President Niyazov had an official meeting and they went to big canyon for an excursion. all of three presidents were top of the biggest canyon and watching beautiful landscape. Of course their personal bodyguards also were with them. Somehow Mr. Bush and Mr. Putin started to discussion that whose bodyguard is better.
Mr. Bush told that “If ask my bodyguard to jump from the biggest canyon, he won’t hesitate for a minute he will jump”
Mr. Putin told that “If ask my bodyguard to jump from the biggest canyon, he won’t hesitate for a second he will jump”
They argued for an hour and decided to test their bodyguards.
President Bush called his personal bodyguard and ordered to jump from the biggest canyon. His bodyguard who is also agent of CIA firstly surprised then started begging to Mr. Bush saying that he has two children, wife and old parents whom he has to look after.
Mr. Bush thinks for a while then forgives his bodyguard.
President Putin laughs at Mr. Bush saying that his bodyguard is better then he called his personal bodyguard and ordered to jump from the biggest canyon. His bodyguard who is also agent of KGB firstly surprised then started begging to Mr. Putin saying that he has three children, wife and old parents whom he has to look after.
Mr. Putin thinks for a while then forgives his bodyguard too.
President Niyazov surprised and said “Dear my friends your bodyguards are really coward and disgusting, look at my bodyguard”. Then he called his personal bodyguard and ordered to jump from the biggest canyon. His bodyguard who is also agent of KNB jumped from the biggest canyon without any hesitation. Mr. Putin, Mr. Bush and their bodyguards are shocked. After a while Mr. Niyazov’s bodyguard came back in a blood with broken arms, legs and head.
President Bush and Putin helped him and asked to wounded turkmen bodyguard “Why didn’t you beg for your life and why didn’t you refuse to jump?”
Wounden Turkmen Bodyguard answered “I have also two children, wife and old parents whom I have to protect”.

Dear friends, you are asking why turkmen people in abroad are afraid of discuss political, economical and other situation in Turkmenistan. Our answer is :
“WE HAVE ALSO SISTERS, BROTHERS, PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS and RELATIVES WHOM WE WANT TO PROTECT because WE ALL LOVE OUR FAMILY MEMBERS”

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Turkmenistan: Students Abroad Fear to Tell the Truth http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-35702 Global Voices Online » Turkmenistan: Students Abroad Fear to Tell the Truth Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:08:47 +0000 http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-35702 [...] writes about problems with the Turkmen special services faced by Turkmen students abroad. The post also [...] […] writes about problems with the Turkmen special services faced by Turkmen students abroad. The post also […]

]]> By: Hudayguly http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-35681 Hudayguly Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:38:04 +0000 http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-35681 so, do not categorize and oversimplify when you are talking about a certain ethnicity. so, do not categorize and oversimplify when you are talking about a certain ethnicity.

]]> By: Hudayguly http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-35680 Hudayguly Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:35:46 +0000 http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-35680 To Tahir: Dude, who is gonna meet you if you divulge their stories to everyone like this. Everyone wants privacy. Moreover, if they are living abroad, that means they are already adapted to the new culture, and they do not have to meet someone from their home country. Remember that, Americans are individualists and they love privacy. Also, life in the West for a newcomer is not that easy. You can't waste your time meeting some kind of stranger, especially with whom you don't have anything common. To Tahir:

Dude, who is gonna meet you if you divulge their stories to everyone like this. Everyone wants privacy. Moreover, if they are living abroad, that means they are already adapted to the new culture, and they do not have to meet someone from their home country. Remember that, Americans are individualists and they love privacy. Also, life in the West for a newcomer is not that easy. You can’t waste your time meeting some kind of stranger, especially with whom you don’t have anything common.

]]> By: Tahir http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-35674 Tahir Sat, 02 Feb 2008 13:30:56 +0000 http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-35674 I completely agree with those who say, Turkmen students are afraid of speaking about situation back home. It’s not only the case with those Turkmen students who stay in former soviet union block, but I found Turkmen in Turkey are the same, hesitating to say any thing about political issues, human rights and social problem. But when topic will come to discuss about the gossips against individuals, I found them very, very strong speakers. Few days earlier I told by some Turkish students here in Czech Republic about existence of a Turkmen student, I was very happy about this news, and subsequently I requested from him to arrange meeting with this Turkmen guy, I even invited him to come my home and have dinner or lunch. But few days ago, my Turkish friend called in little bit surprise mode, saying that, since he connived my desire of meeting, and invitation, this Turkmen guy even stopped meeting to him. He was in shock. Two months ago I was at Stanford University, with two months of fellowship, during this period I learned about a Turkmen family, living in San Francesco. When my university colleagues tried to arrange meeting with them, they simply ignored. It sounds they are not only afraid of talking about situation back home, but also afraid of meeting people. It’s really strange behavior. May be I understand them wrong, may be there is a cultural difference between people in Turkmenistan with out side world, but whatever the reason is, it’s true that there is huge gap between Turkmen and outside world. Which I think is related to their Govt. policy, political atmosphere and complete isolation, as well as media black out. I completely agree with those who say, Turkmen students are afraid of speaking about situation back home. It’s not only the case with those Turkmen students who stay in former soviet union block, but I found Turkmen in Turkey are the same, hesitating to say any thing about political issues, human rights and social problem. But when topic will come to discuss about the gossips against individuals, I found them very, very strong speakers.
Few days earlier I told by some Turkish students here in Czech Republic about existence of a Turkmen student, I was very happy about this news, and subsequently I requested from him to arrange meeting with this Turkmen guy, I even invited him to come my home and have dinner or lunch. But few days ago, my Turkish friend called in little bit surprise mode, saying that, since he connived my desire of meeting, and invitation, this Turkmen guy even stopped meeting to him. He was in shock.
Two months ago I was at Stanford University, with two months of fellowship, during this period I learned about a Turkmen family, living in San Francesco. When my university colleagues tried to arrange meeting with them, they simply ignored.
It sounds they are not only afraid of talking about situation back home, but also afraid of meeting people. It’s really strange behavior. May be I understand them wrong, may be there is a cultural difference between people in Turkmenistan with out side world, but whatever the reason is, it’s true that there is huge gap between Turkmen and outside world. Which I think is related to their Govt. policy, political atmosphere and complete isolation, as well as media black out.

]]> By: agent00edy http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-35657 agent00edy Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:18:34 +0000 http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/02/01/turkmen-students-abroad-fear-to-tell-the-truth/#comment-35657 Dear Maciula! You might be slightly disappointed if I say that nobody in our organisation read English language web sites and blogs related to Turkmenistan. But it is a bitter true. Unfortunately nobody in KNB even can read in English. With kind regards. Your “guardian angel” Major S. Rejepow Dear Maciula!

You might be slightly disappointed if I say that nobody in our organisation read English language web sites and blogs related to Turkmenistan. But it is a bitter true. Unfortunately nobody in KNB even can read in English.

With kind regards.

Your “guardian angel”
Major S. Rejepow

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