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		<title>By: maciula</title>
		<link>http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/01/12/the-turkmen-names/#comment-36413</link>
		<dc:creator>maciula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Yazjemal,
Thank you very, very much for your comments! It is very nice and encouraging when someone appreciates you and your work. I am not a Turkmen, but I try to learn about your country as much as possible. Sometimes I make unintentional mistakes and I would like Turkmen people to correct me, not only to harshly criticize. Another problem is that people sometimes do not understand that when I criticize government it doesn’t mean that I am “anti-Turkmen”. 

What you have written about names is extremely interesting. As I understood before Soviet times people always succeeded their surnames after grandfather’s first names. But know this tradition is not alive any more and you always succeed your name after your father. So, your surname is Nuriyeva not because your grandfather’s name was Nuri, but because your fathers surname was Nuriyev. Is it correct?

You asked about my travel to Turkmenistan. I was in Ahal, Mary and Balkan regions.

Anyway, I will send an email to you.

Best wishes,
maciula</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Yazjemal,<br />
Thank you very, very much for your comments! It is very nice and encouraging when someone appreciates you and your work. I am not a Turkmen, but I try to learn about your country as much as possible. Sometimes I make unintentional mistakes and I would like Turkmen people to correct me, not only to harshly criticize. Another problem is that people sometimes do not understand that when I criticize government it doesn’t mean that I am “anti-Turkmen”. </p>
<p>What you have written about names is extremely interesting. As I understood before Soviet times people always succeeded their surnames after grandfather’s first names. But know this tradition is not alive any more and you always succeed your name after your father. So, your surname is Nuriyeva not because your grandfather’s name was Nuri, but because your fathers surname was Nuriyev. Is it correct?</p>
<p>You asked about my travel to Turkmenistan. I was in Ahal, Mary and Balkan regions.</p>
<p>Anyway, I will send an email to you.</p>
<p>Best wishes,<br />
maciula</p>
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		<title>By: Yazjemal</title>
		<link>http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/01/12/the-turkmen-names/#comment-36380</link>
		<dc:creator>Yazjemal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John ,


i really respect your interests about my country..and will be happy to tell you about last names appirently Maya also told you about last names but i have to mention about  traditional turkmen last names was given after their grandfathers and were usualy spelled as , ex: "if grandfather's name is "Atamyrat" his grandson would get last name as "Atamyrat ogly" in translation of "son of Atamyrat" or a grandoughter "Atamyrat gyzy" translated as "doughter of Atamyrat" but later after Turkmenistan was for so many years under russian influence (Soviet times) we got changed(some what lost) out tradition in this case about last names ..i ment we still got to keep out fathers name but without adds as "olgy-son"or "gyzy-doughter"  they added endings like for males"ov" for females"ova" which is still in our last names 

so, i hope i made even if a lil bit clear and been a help  for you , and i'm realy interested what do u think about my country..if u think i could a answer some more of your questions will be happy to help and explain ...u can find me here o'll b echeking back or e-mail me at yazjemaln@yahoo.com

friendly, Yazjemal Nuriyeva</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John ,</p>
<p>i really respect your interests about my country..and will be happy to tell you about last names appirently Maya also told you about last names but i have to mention about  traditional turkmen last names was given after their grandfathers and were usualy spelled as , ex: &#8220;if grandfather&#8217;s name is &#8220;Atamyrat&#8221; his grandson would get last name as &#8220;Atamyrat ogly&#8221; in translation of &#8220;son of Atamyrat&#8221; or a grandoughter &#8220;Atamyrat gyzy&#8221; translated as &#8220;doughter of Atamyrat&#8221; but later after Turkmenistan was for so many years under russian influence (Soviet times) we got changed(some what lost) out tradition in this case about last names ..i ment we still got to keep out fathers name but without adds as &#8220;olgy-son&#8221;or &#8220;gyzy-doughter&#8221;  they added endings like for males&#8221;ov&#8221; for females&#8221;ova&#8221; which is still in our last names </p>
<p>so, i hope i made even if a lil bit clear and been a help  for you , and i&#8217;m realy interested what do u think about my country..if u think i could a answer some more of your questions will be happy to help and explain &#8230;u can find me here o&#8217;ll b echeking back or e-mail me at <a href="mailto:yazjemaln@yahoo.com">yazjemaln@yahoo.com</a></p>
<p>friendly, Yazjemal Nuriyeva</p>
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		<title>By: Yazjemal</title>
		<link>http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/01/12/the-turkmen-names/#comment-36378</link>
		<dc:creator>Yazjemal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello to everyone.. i'm curently have to be lil bit disaree with our guys..adn appearently i was born in autumn ..but still my parents named me after yazjemal cuz' day i was born felt like spring.. so Akmuhammet, uzbek   i really want you to understand that religion is not as stong as in iran or any other islamic counteis and it's cuz' is as we all know Soviet Times ...


maicula,by the way i respect  that u gave a try to learn about my country... and you said u been to some regions ...where did you mean exactly ...becouse i think it would help you more to understand about given some part russian names.. Balkan one of the regions of Turkmenistan where i'm from we have more russian influens than other parts of my country.. becouse this region by the Caspian Sea as you might know Turkmenistan covered by 80% desert so russian had to came thru Caspi to capture it  in 1881...Also this known in history as "times of Bolshaviki"
comign back to the topic part russian names.. in truth there is none half russian first name , possibilities are if one of the parents are non-turkmen usualy mom i know it sounds weired but this is the truth... 
Another case that u might herd boy has russian name even if both parents are turkmen , ex: buy named "Durdy"-commen turkmen name .. with turkmen background(parents) but  friends call him "Dima" -commen russian name came from "Dmitriy" guy can get this name when he hang around with russian speaking kidds and russian language made big insparation on his family..i'm saying that becouse there is traditional turkmen families who speaks russian as their fist language.And it's not hard to understand , once again coused by the Soviet times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello to everyone.. i&#8217;m curently have to be lil bit disaree with our guys..adn appearently i was born in autumn ..but still my parents named me after yazjemal cuz&#8217; day i was born felt like spring.. so Akmuhammet, uzbek   i really want you to understand that religion is not as stong as in iran or any other islamic counteis and it&#8217;s cuz&#8217; is as we all know Soviet Times &#8230;</p>
<p>maicula,by the way i respect  that u gave a try to learn about my country&#8230; and you said u been to some regions &#8230;where did you mean exactly &#8230;becouse i think it would help you more to understand about given some part russian names.. Balkan one of the regions of Turkmenistan where i&#8217;m from we have more russian influens than other parts of my country.. becouse this region by the Caspian Sea as you might know Turkmenistan covered by 80% desert so russian had to came thru Caspi to capture it  in 1881&#8230;Also this known in history as &#8220;times of Bolshaviki&#8221;<br />
comign back to the topic part russian names.. in truth there is none half russian first name , possibilities are if one of the parents are non-turkmen usualy mom i know it sounds weired but this is the truth&#8230;<br />
Another case that u might herd boy has russian name even if both parents are turkmen , ex: buy named &#8220;Durdy&#8221;-commen turkmen name .. with turkmen background(parents) but  friends call him &#8220;Dima&#8221; -commen russian name came from &#8220;Dmitriy&#8221; guy can get this name when he hang around with russian speaking kidds and russian language made big insparation on his family..i&#8217;m saying that becouse there is traditional turkmen families who speaks russian as their fist language.And it&#8217;s not hard to understand , once again coused by the Soviet times.</p>
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		<title>By: Maya</title>
		<link>http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/01/12/the-turkmen-names/#comment-36347</link>
		<dc:creator>Maya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 03:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly dont get why people are upset about this report. Most of you are overreacting. If u disagree with her then provide constructive critisim instead of attacking her. She is willing to correct herself wherever she made a mistake. 

John,

In Turkmenistan, females add OVA to end of their grandfather's(from dad's side) name and males add an OV. Sometimes they add the ending to their father's name. For instance, my last name is Kerimova because my grandfather's name was Kerim and since I am a female i added an OVA. My brother's surname is Kerimov because he is a guy. I hope this is clear enough. If not you can email me at Zolotok@aol.com and i can explain further. Good luck with your book!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly dont get why people are upset about this report. Most of you are overreacting. If u disagree with her then provide constructive critisim instead of attacking her. She is willing to correct herself wherever she made a mistake. </p>
<p>John,</p>
<p>In Turkmenistan, females add OVA to end of their grandfather&#8217;s(from dad&#8217;s side) name and males add an OV. Sometimes they add the ending to their father&#8217;s name. For instance, my last name is Kerimova because my grandfather&#8217;s name was Kerim and since I am a female i added an OVA. My brother&#8217;s surname is Kerimov because he is a guy. I hope this is clear enough. If not you can email me at <a href="mailto:Zolotok@aol.com">Zolotok@aol.com</a> and i can explain further. Good luck with your book!</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/01/12/the-turkmen-names/#comment-35750</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankyou to all for the help on Turkmen first names, I am currently writing a book of which part is based in Turkmenistan.  However can anyone give any guidance to how surnames are formed and examples of them.  Thanks for all your help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou to all for the help on Turkmen first names, I am currently writing a book of which part is based in Turkmenistan.  However can anyone give any guidance to how surnames are formed and examples of them.  Thanks for all your help.</p>
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		<title>By: uzbek</title>
		<link>http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/01/12/the-turkmen-names/#comment-35580</link>
		<dc:creator>uzbek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh....we've got the "iranian turkman" now. so handy-dandy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh&#8230;.we&#8217;ve got the &#8220;iranian turkman&#8221; now. so handy-dandy.</p>
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		<title>By: houran</title>
		<link>http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/01/12/the-turkmen-names/#comment-35560</link>
		<dc:creator>houran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm an iranian turkmen and I agree completely with  maciula in this regard. Even in my country where religious thinking and education is very strong turkmens are the less religious ethnics in Iran. Naming of children among turkmens of here was once as the way  maciula has said but not any more. In recent two decades islamic names were popular among turkmens but recently they are shifting to originally turkic names but simple and one word names as yashar, erkin, sona, gozel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an iranian turkmen and I agree completely with  maciula in this regard. Even in my country where religious thinking and education is very strong turkmens are the less religious ethnics in Iran. Naming of children among turkmens of here was once as the way  maciula has said but not any more. In recent two decades islamic names were popular among turkmens but recently they are shifting to originally turkic names but simple and one word names as yashar, erkin, sona, gozel.</p>
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		<title>By: Akmuhammet</title>
		<link>http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/01/12/the-turkmen-names/#comment-35516</link>
		<dc:creator>Akmuhammet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I quoted again same sentence. I am ciriticising the relation between Islam level and names. Because we still do many pre-islam traditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I quoted again same sentence. I am ciriticising the relation between Islam level and names. Because we still do many pre-islam traditions.</p>
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		<title>By: Akmuhammet</title>
		<link>http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/01/12/the-turkmen-names/#comment-35515</link>
		<dc:creator>Akmuhammet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"But I do not agree with you that Islam in Turkmenistan is as strong as in e.g. Uzbekistan or Tajikistan. " 
Yes, you may be right, but sentence :
"This shows that Islam is not very deeply rooted in Turkmenistan" 
is a bit wrong. Because before USSR era we used names we use today.  Before USSR turkmen people were very religious. In fact I tried to mean this. Thank you for the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I do not agree with you that Islam in Turkmenistan is as strong as in e.g. Uzbekistan or Tajikistan. &#8221;<br />
Yes, you may be right, but sentence :<br />
&#8220;This shows that Islam is not very deeply rooted in Turkmenistan&#8221;<br />
is a bit wrong. Because before USSR era we used names we use today.  Before USSR turkmen people were very religious. In fact I tried to mean this. Thank you for the article.</p>
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		<title>By: uzbek</title>
		<link>http://turkmenistan.neweurasia.net/2008/01/12/the-turkmen-names/#comment-35514</link>
		<dc:creator>uzbek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Juma" has been in the vocabulary of Turkmen, Uzbek, and other nations since the introduction of Islam back in 7th century, so there is no need to call that word "arabic". Don't you think a nation who have used it for over 700 years deserve to call that word as their own? If you don't, then you are going to surrender 70% of "English" words to French, Latin, Spanish, and Greek. 
You offered a conclusion that Islam isn't deep-rooted in Turkmen culture and give an example of names with "arabic". I don't why you think over 7 century period as shallow. Were trying to tell a "good news" to fellow christian missionaries???
Nasty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Juma&#8221; has been in the vocabulary of Turkmen, Uzbek, and other nations since the introduction of Islam back in 7th century, so there is no need to call that word &#8220;arabic&#8221;. Don&#8217;t you think a nation who have used it for over 700 years deserve to call that word as their own? If you don&#8217;t, then you are going to surrender 70% of &#8220;English&#8221; words to French, Latin, Spanish, and Greek.<br />
You offered a conclusion that Islam isn&#8217;t deep-rooted in Turkmen culture and give an example of names with &#8220;arabic&#8221;. I don&#8217;t why you think over 7 century period as shallow. Were trying to tell a &#8220;good news&#8221; to fellow christian missionaries???<br />
Nasty.</p>
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